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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eric cantor was told of
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the...
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bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of the cia and having worked closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe there is a responsibility to make sure they're informed. did they handle this correctly? >> no. somebody dropped the ball. you never blind side the president. when a senior official in his administration under investigation when e-mails are being read, you inform the white house at a very high level. national security adviser. his council. even the president himself. you always do that. it's a standing protocol inside the federal government. never blindside the president. as far as i've se
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. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot of ground to cover here. we have this video that has surfaced of paula broadwell, last month, speaking at the university of denver and she's speaking here as david petraeus' biographer about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. let's take a listen. >> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia an annex had taken a couple prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get the prisoners back. that's still being vetted. >> where did she hear that? did it come from david petraeus and do we k
. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot...
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i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing related to kelly, this becomes the fbi's cyber division is concerned that petraeus's private e-mail is hacked in to. that's why they continue this and the crime they're looking at. this is a red herring about harassment of jill kelly, a private citizen and a social liaison. ludicrous. that's not a predicate. >> do you think they overstepped that? >> go ahead, tom. >> determination would be made that, you know, what's the content of these messages? they would take that to the u.s. attorney's office and determine whether or not this might b
i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing...
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the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more than one internet address. news reports say paula broadwell, now known as the person sending harassing e-mails to kelley believed to send them from various places. depending on where the computer was plugged in, the sender would have different ip addresses. an expert on internet monitoring explains what the fbi likely did next. >> so what they did is they determined that she logged into this e-mail account from hotels around the country. and so they contacted the hotels and got the guest lists, the names of people who were staying at the hotels on those
the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more...
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justice department sends in the fbi. there are two teams, a heavily armed tactical unit with armored personnel carriers, and negotiators, armed with a phone and their wits. >> i teach negotiators that the very first thing you have to have is self-control. >> reporter: gary nessner is the bureau's chief negotiator. when you got there, when you were briefed, what were you dealing with? >> i think in the context of the atf, where there clearly was anger, the freedom dominant emotion i was seeing or behavior was devastation. almost like walking zombies. >> reporter: nessner's team wants to understand koresh's personality. >> and this is something this whole nation's going to have to learn. whether they are going to learn by being sober and listening or whether they are going to learn the hard way. >> i believe everything he did, almost throughout the entirety of the ordeal, was ambivalence, was part of me wants to live, part of me wants to die. >> reporter: they looked for clues in this tv news report about koresh and branch
justice department sends in the fbi. there are two teams, a heavily armed tactical unit with armored personnel carriers, and negotiators, armed with a phone and their wits. >> i teach negotiators that the very first thing you have to have is self-control. >> reporter: gary nessner is the bureau's chief negotiator. when you got there, when you were briefed, what were you dealing with? >> i think in the context of the atf, where there clearly was anger, the freedom dominant...
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and it's easier to allow reporters to go in there than it is to have an official team of the fbi. i think the libyan government was concerned that, you know, if they go in and they start working, were they going to be able to control these militant groups in the area? would they start raining down rockets on them from afar and make it very unsafe to work? where there would be no availability to protect them if these things were being fired from rooftops ten blocks away, how would they take that on without having civilian casualties and without escalating it? i think there were a lot of concerns for how to do that. i used to be responsible in my last five years in the bureau of those deployments, of sending people out to areas to conduct forensic exams of where americans have been killed. my last one was the mumbai incident in 2008. so, so, you know, i'm very familiar with the procedures and protocols and need of protection for the investigators when they go to a site like that. this was just a little more unusual because it wasn't occurring in a country where they have adequate co
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and you can look at the spy fil files, and you can google wikileaks fbi files, of over 175 companies around the world that sell this mass surveillance technology. we're not saying, oh, look, we just spoke to julian assange, now we'll spy on you. it is cheaper now to intercept all communications in and out of a country. store it to go after one person. and there are companies in south africa that were selling that into libya. this is not a matter of speculation. these are documents from these companies that are secret per spec tuses that are sold. you will see it. plenty of good work is being done on this. a whole bunch of journalists. i'm curious about this. a lot of people share this fear. right? you know, some people might say you go too far on it. but you are someone out there trying to champion and benefiting by the internet by putting out information that the governments don't want you to have. i wanted to ask you where you are tonight. first one question i wanted to ask you about this. officials from ecuador say that you have had a lung infects and that you have been sick since
and you can look at the spy fil files, and you can google wikileaks fbi files, of over 175 companies around the world that sell this mass surveillance technology. we're not saying, oh, look, we just spoke to julian assange, now we'll spy on you. it is cheaper now to intercept all communications in and out of a country. store it to go after one person. and there are companies in south africa that were selling that into libya. this is not a matter of speculation. these are documents from these...
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fbi agents raided her home, taking computers and other documents earlier this week. finally, we now know the identity of the fbi agent who first investigated the whole mess. by now you probably know him as the shirtless agent, the guy who sent a shirtless photo to jill kelly, the other woman involved in this mess. fbi agents name is frederick humphries, over those supposedly harassing e-mails now linked to paula broadwell. hope you got that. >>> controversy over benghazi, as you know, has reached a boiling point, though. yesterday at his first press conference, being row elected, president obama has strong words for anyone who blames u.s. -- united nations ambassador susan rice for the benghazi response. here is what the president said. >> as i've said before, she made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> okay. so it took senator john mccain about an hour to make i
fbi agents raided her home, taking computers and other documents earlier this week. finally, we now know the identity of the fbi agent who first investigated the whole mess. by now you probably know him as the shirtless agent, the guy who sent a shirtless photo to jill kelly, the other woman involved in this mess. fbi agents name is frederick humphries, over those supposedly harassing e-mails now linked to paula broadwell. hope you got that. >>> controversy over benghazi, as you know,...
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but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it seems this has been going on for several months and yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner. the house and senate intelligence committees weren't informed until friday. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. i mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> reporter: not everyone on the hill was totally in the dark. house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi employee told him about petraeus' affair and a possible security breach in october. after the investigation had begun. a u.s. official says that the general's communications were never compromised and he was never the target of the investigation. another issue, petraeus stepped do
but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it seems this has been going on for several months and yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner. the house and senate intelligence committees weren't...
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i'm telling my fbi bff. jill's fbi bff was totes crushing on him like he's taylor lautner. >> i'm trying to figure this out. two four-star generals involved here, several women involved. one set of twins and a guy, a shirtless guy from the fbi. and i'm -- i mean, don't you miss the simplicity of the clinton years? >> that's pretty funny. >>> "early start" continues right now. >> oh, boy. >>> breaking news, a blistering assault under way right now in gaza. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> fighting words from president obama sticking up for one of his own in the face of critics. >>> and paying the price, bp reportedly closer to a plea deal over the gulf oil spill that could cost the oil giant a billion dollars. good morning to you. welcome to "early start." i'm zoraida sambolin. >> and i'm john berman. it's about 6:00 a.m. in the east. we'll go live to gaza for that breaking news. in a few moments. but first, if republicans want to pick a
i'm telling my fbi bff. jill's fbi bff was totes crushing on him like he's taylor lautner. >> i'm trying to figure this out. two four-star generals involved here, several women involved. one set of twins and a guy, a shirtless guy from the fbi. and i'm -- i mean, don't you miss the simplicity of the clinton years? >> that's pretty funny. >>> "early start" continues right now. >> oh, boy. >>> breaking news, a blistering assault under way right now in...
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two months later to president -- >> the question is the fbi stumbled upon it. it seems to me frankly you're hinting at something bad, and i don't see what that could be. >> i'm hinting at something out of control and not with the proper authority. who are you accusing of not having done the right thing? >> i've always had great respect for him and great respect for general petraeus. >> i do too. >> i want to know what the sequence was and when top level people were making decisions about -- >> i'll tell you what troubles me. if this is an investigation into david petraeus's bank account instead of his sex life all of us would be paying a lot less attention to it. i'm troubled by the periods of some of this and the prominence of getting his privacy doesn't totally disappear. >> let me move you on. do you have a single big question about what went on in benghazi or what happened in the aftermath that you think must be answered. >> i think there are lequestions that have to be answered. why weren't the warnings about the need for heeded. why weren't the requests f
two months later to president -- >> the question is the fbi stumbled upon it. it seems to me frankly you're hinting at something bad, and i don't see what that could be. >> i'm hinting at something out of control and not with the proper authority. who are you accusing of not having done the right thing? >> i've always had great respect for him and great respect for general petraeus. >> i do too. >> i want to know what the sequence was and when top level people were...
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and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a critical moment for our military. >> congressman elijah cummings joining us. ranking member of the house oversight committee. nice to see you, sir. thank you for your time this morning. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, a starting point, he resigned after a sex scandal of his own. former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey is going to join us to talk about sort of the fallout and how people deal with the fallout. that's straight ahead. stay with us. one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember. with the bankamericard cash rewards
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by that time an fbi investigation was already under way. the fbi told the director of national intelligence james clapper on election night, according to a senior u.s. intelligence official. the white house says it was notified the day after the election, and the president the following day. that doesn't make sense to house homeland security chairman peter king. >> this seems to have been going on for several months yet now it appears they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> "the new york times" reports the fbi actually started its investigation late this summer. the house and senate intelligence committees were also caught by surprise. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. i mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> the fbi was investigating harassing e-mails from petraeus' biographer. the trail led to paula broadwell, who co-wrote "all
by that time an fbi investigation was already under way. the fbi told the director of national intelligence james clapper on election night, according to a senior u.s. intelligence official. the white house says it was notified the day after the election, and the president the following day. that doesn't make sense to house homeland security chairman peter king. >> this seems to have been going on for several months yet now it appears they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until...
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jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon, thank you so much for clearing up what we can. i have the sense there will be a lot more to clear up in coming hours and days. >> let's keep digging. as for how the white house is responding, let's bring in brianna keeler. brianna, the president and congress have been scheduled this week to meet about the fiscal cliff. might these new details on the fbi investigation be a bit of a distraction for them? >> well, i would say certainly all of the discussion over this scandal takes up a lot of the oxygen in the news cycle, for sure. the fiscal cliff is going to continue to be a prio
jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence...
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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what that would be.
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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back to that fbi investigation, a u.s. official tells cnn that the fbi was not investigating them for any wrong doing, it was just about protecting him from blackmail, but that explanation is not setting well for some. >> the idea that the fbi is investigating the cia director for an extra marital affair is extraordinary. i have never seen it happen, and it smacks of george orwell. it's more to do than with sex. there is something going on they can't explain. >> this also raised questions regarding the role of the white house and the timing of the announcement. >> this is the key question right now in front of everybody. how extraordinary would it be that you have this type of fbi investigation into your cia director and the president is not informed of it? the word is circulating that the president was not aware that only one petraeus came to him, but it really seems to believe that someone in the white house didn't know that the fbi didn't inform the white house in some fashion. >> earlier, we talked to fran townsend who
back to that fbi investigation, a u.s. official tells cnn that the fbi was not investigating them for any wrong doing, it was just about protecting him from blackmail, but that explanation is not setting well for some. >> the idea that the fbi is investigating the cia director for an extra marital affair is extraordinary. i have never seen it happen, and it smacks of george orwell. it's more to do than with sex. there is something going on they can't explain. >> this also raised...
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the fbi does not come to the white house when there are criminal investigations. a lot of that is because of what happened under nixon, watergate, hoover and all those issues. if, in fact, there's an intelligence issue, it would come before our committee. >> this is jim frederick. i have a question about an investigation. how much of it is going to encompass ambassador rice in the role she played? as you know, senator mccain is highly focused on this, becoming a news point in its own right. will you be looking into some of that investigation as well? >> that will be another committee. that is the committee that oversees the state department. one of the things -- let me say from what i know -- this is only from more media than anything else. information rice received she recei received from the administration. that information is what she knew at that time. whether or not she knew other information, whether or not she told the truth, that is not an issue here. i think the president made a comment about that yesterday, that she received information from his administ
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but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here, then, that an outsider could have access, quite simply, to sensitive information and intelligence? >> well, that is the concern when it starts. but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems so that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers. and then of course, you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate. but t
but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and...
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why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then would this all have happened. that's sort of the cleopatra's nose theory. if she had an ugly nose, would history have been different. that's an interesting question to discuss but i don't think it's a fundamental one. >> this revelation that apparently the investigation was concluded four days before the election clearly somebody has decided, whoever that may be and i'm sure we'll find out in the forms of time, that the information should not be passed to the white house, although i share your concern about the white house's blanket denial they
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willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he believes information about comings and goings that paula broadwell sent sparked the investigation and he said there were grounds to do that. >> brian, thanks very much. >>> if a top general has an affair, is it a crime under military law? the answer might be yes. is it time for a refresh you er course from the top down? more in the "the situation room." ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no
willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he...
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in the early summer, the fbi began an investigation. the late summer, high level official at the fbi and justice department were notified. that investigators uncovered what appeared to be an affair between petraeus and broadwell. now, according to the "wall street journal," eric holder is among those who were informed. now, october 21st through november 3rd, that's the first time fbi agents interviewed both broadwell and petraeus. then on october 31st -- notified cantor's office. he passed on the concerns to robert mueller. now, on november 2nd, the fbi said there's tho evidence petraeus committed a crime and they rule out charges, then it is election day when james clapper is first informed of the investigation. at 5:00 eastern standard time. he called petraeus and advised him to resign. it wasn't until after the election the president was notified and on november 9th, friday, he accepted the resignation. house and senate bell where she knows leaders are then informed. bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi in
in the early summer, the fbi began an investigation. the late summer, high level official at the fbi and justice department were notified. that investigators uncovered what appeared to be an affair between petraeus and broadwell. now, according to the "wall street journal," eric holder is among those who were informed. now, october 21st through november 3rd, that's the first time fbi agents interviewed both broadwell and petraeus. then on october 31st -- notified cantor's office. he...
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and he made it to the fbi's ten most wanted list. he was nabbed thanksgiving day in guadalajara, mexico. federal authorities held a news conference. take a listen. >> catching a top ten fugitive in the fbi is a big deal. that's something that all of our fbi agents aspire to do, so for the folks back behind me to have the opportunity to be involved in that is really a big thing and i told them i wanted them to share in this press conference. >> here's one of the crimes saenz is accused of. the kidnapping, rape and murder of his own child's mother. fbi says she threatened to turn saenz in for two murders he's accused of committing in 1998. the fed says his latest job was at a hired gun for the drug cartels. >>> in the streets of egypt today, scenes just like this one. two sides clashing over president mohamed morsi's decision to grant himself sweeping new powers. the violent protests played out behind closed doors, morsi met with egypt's top judges to explain his move. these are the same judges who are now banned from overturning any d
and he made it to the fbi's ten most wanted list. he was nabbed thanksgiving day in guadalajara, mexico. federal authorities held a news conference. take a listen. >> catching a top ten fugitive in the fbi is a big deal. that's something that all of our fbi agents aspire to do, so for the folks back behind me to have the opportunity to be involved in that is really a big thing and i told them i wanted them to share in this press conference. >> here's one of the crimes saenz is...
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fran and ron, author of the secrets of the fbi. fran, a really basic question here. if you just walk up to someone on a staff and say, hey, the general would like me to have classified documents, is that all there is to it? would they likely hand them over on that? >> no, but you have to understand the military culture. i visited petraeus in afghanistan on business and he walks into a briefing, he speaks to you about sensitive military matters, the staff sees that, there's a military culture and so, if you then ask for a document and suggest that the general has offered it to you in some way or sanctioned your having it, it's very difficult for a subordinate military member to either question the general's guest or the general himself about that. and so, it's not really clear, did petraeus actually direct that she could have theodis documents, did he chun kate with his subordinate soldiers and command, we don't know that so it remains unclear about the circumstances. >> so, ron, if it's a staff member who sees this sort of relationship or thinks they see such a relat
fran and ron, author of the secrets of the fbi. fran, a really basic question here. if you just walk up to someone on a staff and say, hey, the general would like me to have classified documents, is that all there is to it? would they likely hand them over on that? >> no, but you have to understand the military culture. i visited petraeus in afghanistan on business and he walks into a briefing, he speaks to you about sensitive military matters, the staff sees that, there's a military...
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we now know who the fbi agent was who began this whole investigation, fredrick w. humphry who is a glorious name and he is through friends and colleagues of clearing himself of anything wrong, is that right? >> yes, a couple of sources who have come out to give a little bit more information about him and the nature of the relationship and it seems like more of a friendship with the families than anything else. the real headline this week is that he had sent a shirtless photograph of himself to jill kelley and when you get down to the bottom, it may be slightly different. we are told it maybe is not so sexy, but it is described by a couple of people that he was a shooting range where they had a couple of dummies with the head and the torso and he had taken his shirt off as a joke to stood between them and that is the -hfd a tt xyto, but piers, i >we, thing wor and now over to paula broadwell psuspendtoutwh utyclearanc ndeiaoneromne utyclearanc may thr wl. >> ye fn wnndeported this earlier that it appears that the information on her computer may have been t egregioua
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not the person, the friend, the neighbor, the relative fbi agent. in this particular case, kelley contacts a friend of hers, who is an agent in the tampa office. that agent takes the information into the tampa office. it goes to the cyber squad and supervisor of that squad makes the very initial determination about opening and assigning that case to a particular case agent from his squad. if the person that brings the message in or brings the complaint in in the first place really has no involvement in the continuing investigation unless they just happen to be on that squad in the first place. but normally it would go to the experts. that squad handles it. the original complaining agent is out. >> interesting. tom fuentes, thank you so much for joining us. former assistant of the fbi. >> thank you. >>> general john allen getting a vote of confidence from his boss, defense secretary leon panetta, says allen will remain the commander of the allied and u.s. forces in afghanistan for the moment at least. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one
not the person, the friend, the neighbor, the relative fbi agent. in this particular case, kelley contacts a friend of hers, who is an agent in the tampa office. that agent takes the information into the tampa office. it goes to the cyber squad and supervisor of that squad makes the very initial determination about opening and assigning that case to a particular case agent from his squad. if the person that brings the message in or brings the complaint in in the first place really has no...
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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morel, acting direct tore of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. public
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. >>> new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, they dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several lawsuits over money problems. drew griffin joins us with more on that. what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, dr. scott kelley, were battling a bank in court, because the bank says they weren't paying their mortgage. the red brick house we've been showing on tampa's exclusive bay shore drive, purchased in 2004 for $1.5 million. four years late
when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. >>> new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of that agent who had this picture taken in between two dummies and make it look like he was a target at the range, and he sent it to a number of people including the media. >> the fbi has really been amazing over these past few decades. since the sordid days of j. edgar hoover in rebuilding its reputation. an incident like this could have a negative impact. >> it could but it won't. the agents should not have got outside of the fbi. that's why these protocols exist. that's why the white house wasn't notified, because of what happened decad
you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of...
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more people asked the fbi if they could own a gun than ever before on a single day. take a look at this. black friday 2012 almost 155,000 people submitted an fbi firearms background check request, and that is up, way up, from previous black fridays. this is really the best way to measure gun sales since the government doesn't track actual purchases. gun store owners say customers are driven by one major issue. they belief a democratic president will crack down on gun ownership or even take away their guns. people are stockpiling ammunition. they did it back in 2008. according to store owners, they're doing it again. joining us from new york is craig whitney. he is a former foreign correspondent and editor of the morning times. also wrote a book living with guns, a liberal's case for the second amendment. >> ever since president obama was elected national rifle association is saying that what he really wants to do is take their guns away from them eventually. people think you better buy your gun now or you may not get a chance. he has won a second term, so better get
more people asked the fbi if they could own a gun than ever before on a single day. take a look at this. black friday 2012 almost 155,000 people submitted an fbi firearms background check request, and that is up, way up, from previous black fridays. this is really the best way to measure gun sales since the government doesn't track actual purchases. gun store owners say customers are driven by one major issue. they belief a democratic president will crack down on gun ownership or even take away...
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why are they issues for national debate and why are they issues for the fbi? >> the fbi has to get into the details of those various documents and e-mail that is john ellen had with jill kelley and others only because it's been raised. they have the obligation to investigate it. it's not a story i would prefer to talk about, nor you. we're still a nation at war. we have 68,000 troops on the ground and we're prosecuting an ene enemy. we have to do that right. john allen has a job to take care of an absolutely precious mission in afghanistan to ensure that that transition goes well. i'm with you, will, i would prefer to be talking about something else of far more significant matter. dave petraeus is gone from the cia. it's important we understand there wasn't a breach of national security. paula broadwell had very close access to dave petraeus. i'm not trying to be flippant here, but what was whispered, what was said, what did she have acti access to? that has to be proven there was not risk. i don't have any more data than you do. this investigation has to run
why are they issues for national debate and why are they issues for the fbi? >> the fbi has to get into the details of those various documents and e-mail that is john ellen had with jill kelley and others only because it's been raised. they have the obligation to investigate it. it's not a story i would prefer to talk about, nor you. we're still a nation at war. we have 68,000 troops on the ground and we're prosecuting an ene enemy. we have to do that right. john allen has a job to take...
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and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading those forces. he has my continued conference to lead those forces and continue to fight. but his nomination has been put on old because it's a prude measure until we determine what the facts are. and we will. >> right, john, obviously it's going to take a while because this is a very tangled situation. but they certainly are looking at exactly what is described as flirtatious e-mails that still remain to be seen what the nature of this was. >> jill, you talk about jill kelley at the center of this whole controversy and scandal. we have new details about her relationship
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. >>> and four men from southern california arrested by the fbi. accused of trying to join al qaeda and wage violent jihad against america. >>> let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, no cease-fire. the killing continues in israel and gaza. the conflict in its seventh day. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton in jerusalem tonight. she arrived late and went straight to a meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> america's commitment to israel's security is rock-solid, and unwavering. that is why we believe it is essential to deescalate the situation in gaza. >> deescalate the situation in gaza. what does deescalate mean? there was a spade of rockets just a moment ago, but yet that's the key word being used by the administration. during a brief press conference with prime minister netanyahu, there was no mention of a cease-fire. netanyahu said israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend itself. and egypt, which is brokering a deal between the two sides, cancelled a press
. >>> and four men from southern california arrested by the fbi. accused of trying to join al qaeda and wage violent jihad against america. >>> let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, no cease-fire. the killing continues in israel and gaza. the conflict in its seventh day. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton in jerusalem tonight. she arrived late and went straight to a meeting with prime minister...
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was the fbi correct in not informing him. he did on a very different note make some very generous comments to mitt romney, his former presidential rival. listen to this. >> i think everybody needs to catch their breath. i'm sure governor romney is spending some time with his family. and my hope is before the end of the year, though, we have a chance to sit down and talk. there are certain aspects of governor romney's record and his ideas that i think could be very helpful. and, well, to give you one example, i do think he did a terrific job running the olympics. >> then he went on to say there were several other excellent ideas that mitt romney raised during the campaign, worthy of explor exploring, wants to sit down and talk to him. gloria, i thought that was nice of the president to make those comments. don't know how mitt romney will respond, but i assume he's the president of the united states, he was re-elected, romney being a great american as he is will say, i would be happy to do whatever you would like me to do. >> i
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the fbi began investigating this after a tip. how has the fbi, would you say, been handling this? >> you know, they do what they do, which is try not to say too much officially about any possible investigations. now, i will tell you that cnn -- a source told cnn that the fbi was investigating a tip, as you mentioned, that david petraeus was involved in an extramarital affair with paula broadwell, who is his biographer. cnn hasn't been able to get in touch with her. in the letter that david petraeus put out yesterday, he doesn't name, of course, anyone who he was having the affair with, he just admits that it happened, that he did it, he's sorry and he's stepping down. >> all right, suzanne kelly. thank you very much. >>> in the aftermath of superstorm sandy, getting the lights back on will not come soon enough. about 150,000 utility customers are still in the dark, sitting in the cold, and that's just on long island. emotions are high, tempers are flaring at the slow pace of this recovery. our national correspondent, susan candiotti is in hemp stead. susan, how much progress are y
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say two weeks later that there was a hateful video that sparked a spontaneous demonstration, why the fbi investigators questioned people who were survivors who told them there was no demonstration and that was not -- we learned by ambassador rice and not learned by the president. >> do you put more blame on the president or miss rice? >> the president is ultimately responsible. >> reporter: so that was all about the president. that's what john mccain is emphasizing right now. here is what we understand they're really going to press susan rice on behind closed doors, carol. that is we know after -- the big issue has been after the attack in september, on the sunday shows susan rice did not mention the fact that there was a possibility that an al qaeda affiliate was behind the attack. in the past two weeks, we were told by the intelligence community the reason is because they wanted that to remain classified. they didn't want it to be out there because they didn't want to compromise sources and methods. what's going to happen behind closed doors this morning and starting as we speak is the
say two weeks later that there was a hateful video that sparked a spontaneous demonstration, why the fbi investigators questioned people who were survivors who told them there was no demonstration and that was not -- we learned by ambassador rice and not learned by the president. >> do you put more blame on the president or miss rice? >> the president is ultimately responsible. >> reporter: so that was all about the president. that's what john mccain is emphasizing right now....
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he was the one whoook that initial complaint and turned it over to the cyberunit at the fbi. we know from a coup of sources he's still on duty. he was not apparently happy with the way the investigation was going. but then you'll remember the sexy little nugget that came out earlier this week, that he had actually sent shirtless photographs of himself to jill kelley. well it will turns out after a couple of meetings yesterday, some representatives for the kelley family described that picture in a little more detail. now we can imagine what it looked like. he was on a shooting range. there were dummies there where they take aim at. he thought it might be funny to take his shirt off and stand among a lineup of dummies. it's not my idea of sexy. as we're finding out more details about the story and getting into the facts of it, it still is interesting, but maybe not quite as bad as everyone first thought. >> one of my sources close to that particular agent said he's a standup guy and never would have sent a sexy shirtless picture. so that does make a lot of sense. suzanne kelly,
he was the one whoook that initial complaint and turned it over to the cyberunit at the fbi. we know from a coup of sources he's still on duty. he was not apparently happy with the way the investigation was going. but then you'll remember the sexy little nugget that came out earlier this week, that he had actually sent shirtless photographs of himself to jill kelley. well it will turns out after a couple of meetings yesterday, some representatives for the kelley family described that picture in...
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that is, yesterday the acting director of the cia told republican senators that it was actually the fbi that changed those controversial unclassified talking points that susan rice used, then called back six hours later and said, never mind, i was wrong, it was us, the cia who did it. i just interviewed lindsey graham who was in that meeting who is very baffled and very perplexed that somebody as high-ranking as the cia director, acting cia director would tell them something about an issue that is so controversial and such a political -- so politically controversial that is absolutely wrong. >> a lot of unanswered questions, a lotf concerns there and obviously very controversial. whether or not this moves forward, the potential nomination for susan rice. dana, excellent reporting, as always. of course, we're going to check back in with you as you continue to meet with members of congress. i want to talk about something that senator collins talked about, her concerns about the readiness of susan rice, given that she was assistant secretary for african affairs in the bombing of east afric
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only to call back several hours later saying, oops, i was wrong, it wasn't the fbi, it was the cia. here is what lindsey graham said about that. >> i can't help but feel incredibly disappointed that we were told something at 10:00 a.m. that couldn't withstand scrutiny for six hours. and is totally inconsistent with what we were told the day before. we have five different explanations of who changed the talking points to take out benghazi. and four different reasons. this is becoming a joke. >> so what these meetings least this particular issue has done is added fuel to the fire and it is not like, you needed to add any more fuel to the fire, especially for senators like lindsey graham who is already really publicly outraged about a lot of issues dealing with the benghazi attack. >> this is just one more. one more. dana bash, thank you. >>> after trashing the hit tv show "two and a half men," the actor angus jones, now back tracking from his controversial comments. that story's next. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich
only to call back several hours later saying, oops, i was wrong, it wasn't the fbi, it was the cia. here is what lindsey graham said about that. >> i can't help but feel incredibly disappointed that we were told something at 10:00 a.m. that couldn't withstand scrutiny for six hours. and is totally inconsistent with what we were told the day before. we have five different explanations of who changed the talking points to take out benghazi. and four different reasons. this is becoming a...